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cungar

07-14-2003, 04:49 PM

I will always be partial to UTBUTS because it was the first I bought and as far as I'm concerned still the most consistent GBV album. 21 songs and not a stinker in the bunch.

bitterfruit

07-14-2003, 05:16 PM

Zero votes for Do The Collapse so far!! It's by no means bad.

cungar

07-14-2003, 05:23 PM

I don't think DTC is too many people's favorite but it's a fun album. There' some great stuff: Things that I will Keep, Surgical focus, Liquid Indian, Picture Me Big Time, Teenage FBI and An Unmarketed Product. And it has a different sound from any other GBV. I call it their 70's commercial pop album.

bitterfruit

07-14-2003, 05:55 PM

Agreed fully. "Hold On Hope" is the only bad spot on the album. DTC is not nearly as kitschy as UTAC.

newspearmint

07-14-2003, 06:59 PM

i like Hold on Hope, even if pollard says he doesn't.
It's the middle part of DTC that i don't care for..like wormhole and much better mr buckels. Liquid indian is a bit glossy. And also the cover and the colors and the photos are kind of weak.
But when it came out it was all i could listen to.

bitterfruit

07-14-2003, 07:34 PM

I always like the Straight Outta Compton-esque orange jumpsuit that Pollard was wearing.

Ladt

07-15-2003, 04:09 AM

If we're inclined to compare albums to other band albums (like everyone says ID is GBV's Who's Next), then I think DTC is their Let It Be. Why? Cos it's not nearly as bad as people think, in fact a lot better, but suffers from over-production. They both also have the one big soppy ballad (or two) that I like. I really like Wrecking Now actually, the one song where Rick Osacek's production actually works for the better of the song.

gelgis olowana

07-15-2003, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by newspearmint
i like Hold on Hope, even if pollard says he doesn't. they never play it live, only on the DTC tour I guess, but when they did they really rocked out and it was a pretty damn great song

newspearmint

07-15-2003, 09:53 AM

and he played it on Conan..so he must have liked it once.
My guess is that he associates it with the dissillusionment of people telling him it'd be a hit for sure

bmmello

07-15-2003, 11:29 AM

I find DTC to be their weakest album even though I like "Hold on Hope". There's a presence of a few quite bad GBV songs like "Zoo Pie" ack.

evil_speakers

07-15-2003, 11:59 AM

I really like Zoo Pie. I know a lot of people hate it, but I really dig the drumming. I listened the hell out of DTC when it came out, though I rarely go back to it.

On a side note, the new album did nothing for me on my first 3 spins (which is rare, usually the third spins is the winner for me), but I just realized I have one of the songs in my head right now... it begins....

lester1/2jr

07-15-2003, 06:31 PM

I love Do the Collapse. I'm very into the sort of industrial dark era of Waved Out and Mag. I love the early stuff like get out of my stations ep and whatnot. I really didn't care for the last two albums especially the very last one. I think the solo albums are my favorite.

My defense of DTC in Pitchfork mail bag (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/mail/archive/oct00/3.shtml)

Jason

07-15-2003, 10:27 PM

I also like "Hold on Hope" and I think it came off well live. I have a few recordings of it. One is a BBC broadcast of GbV opening for Gomez in 1999. It's a short set and the crowd is clearly not into it for the first few songs until a fine "Hold on Hope" audibly wins some of them over.

And fans of the "Bob-and-one-guitar" songs on Suitcase might like the lo-fi demo version of "Hold on Hope" on the Fading Captain vinyl edition of the Hold on Hope EP (Daredevil Stamp Collector).

And I support Do the Collapse. I particularly like "Strumpet Eye" and "Wrecking Now".

portablefire

07-16-2003, 02:11 PM

this poll is proving at long last that Bee Thousand is overrated (currently #4)
and that Under the Bushes (at least at it's time of release) was criminally underrated.

How 'bout a favorite gbv ep slash cd single poll?

cungar

07-16-2003, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by portablefire
this poll is proving at long last that Bee Thousand is overrated (currently #4)
and that Under the Bushes (at least at it's time of release) was criminally underrated.

I've always felt that way. Even though B1000 has many highlights, songs like awful bliss, her psycholgy today, esters day and (especially) demons are real are barely even songs. Yes they have that lo-fi thrown together charm, but I like solid songs.

As far as I'm concerned, UTBUTS has 21 solid, stick in your head never forget, songs. There's not one song on that CD that doesn't blow me away. I'll be hummin it on my death bed. A true classic.

bitterfruit

07-16-2003, 03:44 PM

Hmmm. Don't know about that argument. It's a tough call. Do you remember the warm/fuzziness you felt when first hearing Bee Thousand? I do. I remember it with UTBUTS too is the problem.

I don't think it is or was overrated at all. If anything is overrated, it's Universal Truths And Cycles or some of the later FCS releases.

jef

07-16-2003, 05:46 PM

Bee Thousand has always been my favorite. I always liked the lo-fi thrown together stuff. But UTBUTS is also an amazing pop record. Brilliant songs.

lester1/2jr

07-16-2003, 07:20 PM

I love under the bushes as well. and drag days and big boring wedding are great songs. They do some of that on the video the one filmed in what was it Holllywood or something? There's a version of "wished I was a Giant " on that that's so perfect it's unreal. It looks lip synced

spurious_dander

07-16-2003, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by lester1/2jr

My defense of DTC in Pitchfork mail bag (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/mail/archive/oct00/3.shtml)

what, dear boy, did you accomplish by labeling Brent Sirota of Pitchfork, "faggot nuts"?

concerned,

s_d

Ladt

07-17-2003, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by cungar
[B]I've always felt that way. Even though B1000 has many highlights, songs like awful bliss, her psycholgy today, esters day and (especially) demons are real are barely even songs. Yes they have that lo-fi thrown together charm, but I like solid songs.

/B]
I think both Awful Bliss and Esters day are brilliant, they're not what I'd consider the throwaways on that album.

bmmello

07-17-2003, 06:05 AM

Every Tobin Sprout song = brilliant.

14 Cheerleader Coldfront, To Remake a Young Flyer, the list goes on...

Ladt

07-17-2003, 06:15 AM

I'm always singing the Tobe's praises bt he deserves it, Atom Eyes just makes the end of UTBUTS too.

bitterfruit

07-17-2003, 10:34 AM

Atom Eyes ------ now that's a brilliant tune. I think I'll have to listen to it right now since I am thinking about it.

cungar

07-17-2003, 11:17 AM

I always felt that two of GBV's best pure pop tunes; Atom Eyes and Drag Days were on the same album, UTBUTS. The question is which is better...Tobin's or Bob's????

Ladt

07-17-2003, 01:44 PM

Drag Days is technically a better song (love the riff, more complex structure), but it doesn't quite do it for me the way Atom Eyes does, there's just sometihng about that song. I get a similar feeling with the Eyesinweasel song Pure flesh, similar types of pop songs, love em both.

lester1/2jr

07-17-2003, 02:07 PM

spurius- I just wanted to get their attention in a colorful sort of way. They had printed a news item earlier that said "this new album is so good we didn't even review it) then months later they ran that.

spurious_dander

07-17-2003, 03:18 PM

i know. i was just having fun with you, 'faggot nutz' [sic].

just ribbin',

spur.

newspearmint

07-17-2003, 05:56 PM

i've often thought that Drag Days would be a good song for somebody to cover. lyrically its more 'normal' than many other gbv classics.
has anyone ever heard jimmy eat world do game of pricks?
and i heard somewhere that live did dusted.
Atom eyes is perfect

cungar

07-17-2003, 06:11 PM

I would have loved to hear REM do Drag Days back when they were good.

Did Tobe ever do a song that sounded more like early REM than She Love's her Gown?

Ladt

07-18-2003, 05:42 AM

All that Figure 4 stuff sounds like REM to me. However I never really got the GBV/REM comparisons beyond the first couple of albums.

bmmello

07-18-2003, 09:17 AM

"Trap Soul Door" starts off exactly like "Catapult".

captain

07-22-2003, 01:10 AM

The thing about Do the Collapse is that despite the fact that it is hard to listen to the album all the way through, there are particular songs that are flat-out outstanding, period. I absolutely love "Strumpet Eye," "An Unmarketed Product," and (yes) "Zoo Pie." But whenever I listen to this record, I'm usually jsut buzzing through, trying to get the highlights. I think I'll pull that one out soon actually, and give it a total hearing.

nmalis

07-28-2003, 06:19 AM

I think Same Place the Fly Got Smashed is their best album since it holds together so well conceptually. But, songwise I think UTBUTS has the best tunes. And then of course Bee Thousand is the one that made everyone take notice, so you can't count that one out.

debaser

08-13-2003, 12:45 PM

hahah 11 each for b000 al and utbuts, perfect. my vote is definitely for utbuts incidentally

Ladt

08-13-2003, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by newspearmint

has anyone ever heard jimmy eat world do game of pricks?

Yeah, it's probably the straightest voer of a GBV song that I have ever heard. I think he's got a good voice but I'd rather listen to any GBV version any day. There's also a version by My Vitriol which is OK.
Talking of GBV covers- anyone heard the delgados version of Indian Fables? That's great, I need to find that again, not gonna shell out for the whole sessions when there are no other songs I want though.

captain

08-15-2003, 10:45 PM

the Breeders' cover of "Shocker in Gloomtown" is fucking brilliant. I think it destroys GBV's version--that's probably illegal to say or something, but whatever.

Maelstrom71

08-24-2003, 12:08 AM

Just voted for "Under the Bushes..." because it was my first encounter with GBV and it still stands out. I just feel sorry for all the jerks who hasen´t heard it yet ( and there are appearantly a lot of them ).

Strange though that "Universal..." isn´t more popular - I would rate it as GBV´s second strongest album.

quando quando

08-26-2003, 02:47 AM

to all those who poo poo Bthousand it is now topping the poll. ha ha. man.
just wanted to namedrop fast japanese spincycle cos no one else mentions it & its a corker thou far too short - if i had to pick a release that would be it cos its the one that started the brainwashing
for me
that said its all mindblowing
thou beer is nice too

curly

08-27-2003, 04:03 PM

Fast Japanese...yes!!! Marchers in Orange makes me want to jump up and down and spin around. The VIMH (video in my head) for that one has them at a carnival or fair or something and they're riding the Scrambler...Easily one of their best outputs regardless of length.

lester1/2jr

08-27-2003, 06:44 PM

I used to think "volcano divers" from FJSC was just to silly and nonessential, but now that's what I like about it. If you like that ep don't miss "get out of my stations" featuring "melted Pat" acouple really good songs and "blue moon fruit" which is just thaty.

bmmello

08-27-2003, 07:57 PM

I always prefered the Vampire on Titus version of Marchers,

captain

08-27-2003, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by bmmello
I always prefered the Vampire on Titus version of Marchers,

so do I...but I also prefer the FJSC version of "Dusted." With those two songs, I just like the acoustic versions a lot more than the electric ones...

quando quando

08-29-2003, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by lester1/2jr
I used to think "volcano divers" from FJSC was just to silly and nonessential, but now that's what I like about it. If you like that ep don't miss "get out of my stations" featuring "melted Pat" acouple really good songs and "blue moon fruit" which is just thaty.

get out of my stations is great. i'm still trying to figure out how copies of these 7"'s made it to stores in australia & i bort em (this was b4 i became internet savvy, mid 90s, now of course i just order fcs shit from gbv.com - a lot of fcs stuff doesnt hit the stores at all down here) just given all the talk re i havent herd this or seen that. dont forget static airplane jive or iam a scientist 7"'s. simply mega

Andres

09-05-2003, 06:39 PM

Hi, I'm new here, and pretty new to GBV as well (I've been into them since about December). I voted for Bee Thousand, though I also have Alien Lanes, UTBUTS, and Earthquake Glue, all of which I love, very much in fact. Which one should I get next, is the question! Mag Earwhig or Isolation Drills?? Or Propeller/Titus? Or should I try to find the box set w/ all the early stuff and King Shit?

If you visit the stephenmalkmus.com board, you'll know me as

-Andres

captain

09-06-2003, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by Andres
Hi, I'm new here, and pretty new to GBV as well (I've been into them since about December). I voted for Bee Thousand, though I also have Alien Lanes, UTBUTS, and Earthquake Glue, all of which I love, very much in fact. Which one should I get next, is the question! Mag Earwhig or Isolation Drills?? Or Propeller/Titus? Or should I try to find the box set w/ all the early stuff and King Shit?

If you visit the stephenmalkmus.com board, you'll know me as

-Andres

hey--how are ya! :)

If I might humbly make a suggestion--get Mag Earwhig!. The record is a nice blend of a lot of different styles from GBV, and the album's songs themselves are flat-out stellar (my 2nd-favorite GBV record actually, after Alien Lanes.

But if you're ever in the store and you see a GBV release that you don't have, just grab it regardless! When it comes to GBV music acquisition, in my opinion, any order is the best order :D

later!

quando quando

09-06-2003, 04:00 AM

if bee thousand was yr fav
i would go titus next
but mag earwig is awesome too

bmmello

09-06-2003, 09:01 AM

I would say Vampire on Titus / Propeller.

Mag Earwhig has some great songs (Now to War), but overall I find it quite weak.

lester1/2jr

09-12-2003, 03:07 PM

I would get anything except the last 3 GBV albums which stink

cungar

09-12-2003, 03:21 PM

No they don't. Why don't you subscribe to the GBV nostalgia board?

Susan Kirk

09-12-2003, 04:23 PM

I'm a B1000 gal m'self, followed closely by Vampire, with UTBUTS nipping at its heels.

But, I gotta tell ya...being a superlongtime fan, I wonder if Earthquake Glue is going to shoot right up there one day among that clusterfuck of brilliance. It makes me excited about GbV all over again.

cungar

09-12-2003, 04:29 PM

The reason I think Earthquake Glue is a classic is because I can see myself throwing it on 2 years from now or 5 years from now and just rocking out in my car. With some of the other CD's you kind of have to get into the mood to listen to them. Like Alien Lanes I can only listen to when I'm working or drunk.