my f(ire)ancher

[ninarockets]

in many years of following ms.marshall, i haven't felt completely compelled to write incessantly. i am not a FANatic (despite my FAMily status), but am quite fond of the lyrics, the music, and especially the vibe of ms. marshall. i've seen more than this last tour of cat power (mr. j. fancher, i'm the one who journeyed with the band for 3 shows, remember?), yet i have to suggest -- i've never seen anyone more fucked at a c. power show than mr. fancher.

yes, i posted earlier on this site, and yes, i watched you (mr. j. fancher) at the 2nd chicago show. and nope, don't get all thinking that you were my main attraction (you, as well as others have alluded to your superstar 'intrigue' at That show). i don't know if others saw you 'crying,' all i (and mes amies...i'm not spelling incorrectly, my darling said sir), saw was your drunken imbecility. we saw was you wailing, screaming, and spilling bad booze on Everyone surrounding you.

the crowd was boring? the crowd was homophobic? jesus christ, man, you had no clue what was happening around you. the abbey pub wasn't filled to the brim, there was plenty of space to listen. but your drunken crispin glover frame (you're right, he is better looking than you), insisted upon knocking and rockin people that gave some serious respect that i've never seen at a c. power show. should i show you the pictures i took?

honestly, my friends and i watched you, simply because you looked like a freakin drunk stalker that wanted to rush the stage.

we admired your anonymous resilience to get up in the crowd (but No, none of us, at least YET, are attracted to your wasted, hyperbolic personal drama that you try to work out on a message board, sorry), but you fucked with everyone that night. no problem, according to you, as you yelled in chi-town, "IT'S A PUBLIC PLACE!" but i'll put myself on a limb -- while fully expecting your misspelled, reactionary guise -- your exaggerated quasi-narratives are quite fucked, and rather boring. then again, because i read them, that must mean i'm interested, no? sober up man.

then again, just distract people with your funny crypticisms, write in an ashamed burroughs type-writer-speak, and Throw Up some more potato-art...

cheers,
cjl
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[J_fancher]

-- i've never seen anyone more fucked at a c. power show than mr. fancher.


** Yes that would be me, i have had more interesting nites than that, as im sure you would beleive. Hey at least i dinnit wake up caked in blood or anyting. Just kidding , no i really wish i was. I dinnit figure you see too many people around like me there, kindof a louse alot, but oh well. I'm just really shy, that's all. I havent really left my isolation booth for almost two years and well, i dunno, the reentry is as skiddish as the exit. I have bad stagefright, when i see one i start drinking, they also make me rather upset with myself. Enough talking though, i dont feel like giving you too much ammo for this game. Is it a game? Why are we discussing this? Hmmm You''ll have to respond i guess, or not, or whatever.


-- and nope, don't get all thinking that you were my main attraction (you, as well as others have alluded to your superstar 'intrigue' at That show). i don't know if others saw you 'crying,' all i


** yeah that was pretty arrogant of me wasnt it? well no, it wasn't cause im just foolin with you tellin that same old tired joke. I hope noone saw me crying, just imagine what they would think of me. Im scary in a crappy way, and i wouldnt want anyone to know i did that. No , there i go doing it again. Ah well, that's alright isnt it? yes, j it is alright, amuse yourself one moment longer. This person isnt really being mean, perhaps they are going to help you understand you more by confronting me like this. Perhaps you're right. Sorry bout that, i just i dunno i work it out right here on the thing sometimes. Im just used to it and i dont like to delete. More along the lines of breton than burroughs though, thank you much. No these are lines of consciousness, be they good for your amusement or not, i just start and i got my automatic on hope it can write me a brand new song today, got my automatic on. It comes pretty fast, not all of it is great, but oh well, it just is what it is, and that's enough about that. I wonder if you got this far or if you have already dismissed this as another asinine ramble or however it was you so eloquently stuck it to me. Damnit that was not bad booze, you just dont like booze i guess. I wouldnt want anyone to spill beer on me either, but then again, i dont think id actually care either. Now saying the word care, i have to wonder why i care to respond so much, what is is and what you think you think. Do i feel the need to justify myself? Do i need to explain myself? Am i just talking to myself again and making you listen to us? oh god i wish i knew. Let me quote you some more so we can get back on track, how does that sound?

cool.

--the crowd was boring? the crowd was homophobic? jesus christ, man, you had no clue what was happening around you. the abbey pub wasn't filled to the brim, there was plenty of space to listen. but your drunken crispin glover frame (you're right, he is better looking than you), insisted upon knocking and rockin people that gave some serious respect that i've never seen at a c. power show. should i show you the pictures i took?


i nver said they were all homophobic. I did get pretty mad when i was just standing there with my head down when a song would get to me and kindof try to hide a tear or whatever but i just couldnt help it, and that was all i was doing at points and i was still just considered to be a big asshole or whatever cause i was standing just a touch too close to someone. At that point i was inside the music and i gave fuk all about that ok, that really set me off, you prolly dinnit see that, that was before i really started going off and getting more smashed and being more upset about the whole fukking thing. But you dinnit see that stuff happen did you? That was straight bullshit some snotty crap cause yeah, i am really crude sometimes. You's can see it a mile away, whether or not i bring him out, well screw all that, i bring him out special when you's are doing that crap, and that's all there is to that. That was drool, you dont like drool? fine. You're starting to make me angry, i forgot your name. im too troubled to look again, glad you got mine.

and what about your stupid comments about my art? That shows where you are coming from in your petty slandering. "potato throw up" like a clock is an orange peeler!

oh my gawd no, not pictures of me all fukked up and horrible and crappy looking. Oh my i bet my eyes were half shut and i was a mess and my eyes were giant sacs of schit and there was probably beer and food all over me and my eyes were gray. So what, it keeps yyou at your distance, i hate alot of you, but do i? I feel the need to explain myself to yourself i must not HATE you. All you wanna give me is abuse though, and i just cant take your shit without being smashed ok., fine.

why am i scared of you people? i dont know, ok? ok.

actually, i'd love to see the pictures you took of me. Always good to have perspective dontcha think? just go on my site and find my email or whatever. No wait, i wont trust any mail coming from you, better think of something else.

im sober now, but im just as fuk-all right now as i ever was that night, so post them right here. lert it be like a public service anouncement, service for my grand misdeeds against you.

did you get any shots of that little shoving match that one prick tried top start with me?

yeah, you were all so fresh and so clean, i wish i had drank more and puked on you.

that's it, im going too far with this.

im reminded of words of our dear dear darby crash "we just dont meet"

i am just from a different world then you are, i think that much is obvious. But i hope i have not been TOO abrasive in this post. Abrasive enough, but well, enough that maybe you can understand what goes on in a "fukked up slob" head. Im almost human too!

you're gonna hate my album so much!

i'll be dying to send you a free copy.

at least go look at my website and see orange13 and come back and tell me it really is potato throwup, that's the line right there, that statement was pure nonsense, say all you want about me, i kinda hate me too, but my work, that is a differrnt person almost.


whew, i think that does it for my postings today for all the net, that was way too much.

Well off i go to the post, i have to send some drwings to italy, they already paid me so many days ago, ta ta.

oh well

cheers

jcf
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see, look down there, i might be ugly, but im not christian gluvver.

[J_fancher]

ok i cant help it, i had to come back, i dont leave for the post office for like, 2 more hours, i fibbed. well not really, but that's not the point.

just i mean, you rile me up a little and make me say all i said. But one thing really was offensive, well two things, but i already mentioned your ignorant comments about my work.

the stalker shit.

i stalk me, not me, not you (you probably wish, down in some deep dark "dirty" fantasy, shamefully, shamefully so, but sorry to dissapoint you, im just not that dirty)

yeah, i realize if you're nina rockets you're prollynina and prolly a girl, so ishouldnt be talking so rude to you. bad manners i suppose. Oh well, you deserve it for being so rude and combative.

oh wait i forget, you're right im a stalker alright. Mmmmm i see you right now.

haw ha.

[J_fancher]

isnt that a pathetic face i made at the camera?

how does one get so damned unfotogenic?

through nina rockets!

no idunno,

i really am going now i promise.

i do wanna send you my cd though. I hope you scathe it somewhere. Hey if you enjoy doing it, I'll indulge you all you want. you going to be in detroit next month? I'll give it to you there. i's almost done i jsut have to make my lazy self make the cuts and send it off to the copyright office. i really want you to have it. I think that you're my number one fan, even if you hate me, your the kind i like, beat up with your razor tongue and whip me over and over, no im not really like that, but i think i like seeing you have so much fun with it. Come on, well i gave you enough ammo to fire back with, i will await your response the most baited of breaths one could ever even hope to imagine having!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[J_fancher]

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[J_fancher]

two questions, nina why dinnit you just continue this on the other thread you started this on? Makes no sense, unless you dinnit want i dunno, whatever, heheheh.

and what the hell was chan saying right before that guy yelled about i was hiding? But not you, someone else please, you'll just lie about it im sure.

quit knockin my grammar, i speak to foreigners alot and i love the way they dont speak english, and my neices, they speak such cool english, they should be encouraged to speak like that. Always being corrected. It's all your doing, i know it is, you're so damned correct aren't you?

well lemme get back to work.

what?

im working right now?

oh yeah, haw ha.

[ninarockets]

actually, i wasn't having a problem with your grammar. it was the spelling. yo' sho' write a-lot, dear sir. bonne matin.

[J_fancher]

awww, that's all i get back after all my efforts?

sobs uncontrollably

not really.

yeah i do write alot, i am completely addicted to blowing my brains out across several message boards like this. If only id do it onto my computer as much, my album would be done by now. My book would be done too. And yes, my book would be just as stupid!

have a good night nina.

[Lloyd Hopkins]

If you go to the j fancher bulletin board does it tell you about Cat Power?

I thought perhaps they'd swapped.

[J_fancher]

let me pray that's true!

tommorrow night chan will be on tv. That's enough to make me watch letterman! It'll be really cool, cause she won't be all blurry like in real life!!!!1

[J_fancher]

hey, i was at your site and i got your songs. I was taken aback by your voice after seeing your picture. Your voice sounds um, all deep like some big guy. Maybe i looked at it wrong, but i dunno, i was surprised.

lloyd, it is done!

[J_fancher]

the name of the album? i dinnit copyright the album yet, you aure it's safe?

High Fashioned

I'm recording it myself. I use acoustic instruments and i use my computer to do all the mixing editing whatever, cooledit pro. I've recorded alot so far, have about 39 songs, alot of them have 3-8 versions recorded so far. And i have a few hours of sessions left to cut up. Now comes stink work, i have to make decisions, that's the hard part. I will end up redoing a bit of it. I have about five tracks that im comfortable with as final cuts. I'll probably cut the album at 10-16 songs, no way am i going to delay it and put all 40 or whatever songs on, i said i was going to before and i really thought i wouldm, but it's so much to do, for one person. Another thing slows me down is the "tapes" are rolling and i cant help but improvise new songs, and that's priceless if a good one pops out all easy, so my sessions are full of that kinda stuff, and then i work on those, and i get excited about new stuff, and the older songs start looking dull or im just bored playing them or whatever. So now, im breaking from guitar thrust, most of my stuff is guitar driven, and am putting some piano stuff on there, 2-3 songs and like 2 short solos. I have a few little piano solos, chunks of noise, little guitar blips that i put in between songs like commercial breaks. I have to decide where they best go. My date was april one for release, cause im a fool, i dunno f i'll make it. i just odnt know. Then sometimes i just stop and say to me, what the hell are you doing this for? Wasnt it enough to just have fun playing and singin to amuse yourself? Why jim, why? oh well. It will be something.

have to figure out things to use for percussion. I dont have drum set, i got a sampler to run on the computer you can plug in any sound for any key, and play it in real time, it's ok, but it just comes off flat, no dynamics, you know? It's worlds better than midi, but still.

so i use plastic things full of lego, backs of guitars (hope i dont break anymore of them that way, i cant afford it) the table. etc. or bang on tyhe mic and try putting some slight effects on it. Mostly no effects. I dunno experimenting with percussion i find kinda fun. Some day i will make for myself a skinny puppy style set. i woul;d say his name but i cant remember anyone but cevin and nevik wait, i think it was cevin ? i dunno.

and i made one "industrial" track for fun.

well i better quit rambling and go eat or change the appearance of my forum or some such grandiose thing.

oooooh i know what i need to do.

go pick up guinness.

[J_fancher]

oh yeah, hey Lloyd, at least it wasnt fancher that started the thread that had fancher, basically as the title right?

yeah.

cool.

thanks to chan again. it's your fault chan, cause i dunno i was always planning on this thing, but i dunno, just something about your whole thing just motivated me to finally just do it already. No, my style is not like that of cat power, does not try to be. Even though i didnt change the way i play or song really after hearing chan, somehow i get the feeling she showed me a little bit of what to do, maybe. That sounds fukking ridiculous no? And for making me all full of whatever to go all nuts enough at your show for someone to make a thread all about me and make me feel all special and warm and fuzzy, yeah, heheheh.

[thescabsman]

This is getting very gay. Maybe you guys could go to the gym and pump each other.

[J_fancher]

getting gay?

haw ha, what a phobe.

Just dont tell the girl, i'd hate it if she believed you and tried to forget about me!

besides, if i start being gay, you'll know it, im way too explicit a person for that stuff i said earlier to be gay.

im seeing a pattern here

"dude you guys are gay"

"duuuude i bet she doent groom down there if you know what i mean, huh huh huh huh"

sorry im not really trying to start anytthing.

but i never delete and i always hit submit.

[J_fancher]

it's gettin gay in here

so what?

so take off all your clothes

it's getting gay in here.................




haw ha.

[thescabsman]

Ellsworth, I believe you wrote:

"Thanks for checking it out. I'm 5'10 and 135 pounds - no big guy."

What possesses you, unless of course you are gay, to give your measurements to another guy. Hell, what's your penis size while were at it? Let us all know what you have to offer a man. And I know, fancher (I can't even begin to explain that dude, you're very disturbed, son) thought you were a big guy. That's still no reason to give out your measurements.

For the record, I am not a "phobe". The conversation just turned very gay, that's all.

[J_fancher]

heheheh okay.

i dinnit think he was a big guy, i said i saw his pic and he looked like some little dude like me, and his voice when i downloaded the music just sounded larger than him. That's not gay at all, just i was surprised.

i gotta quit calling people phobes, heheheh.